"Proper journalism" LOL! You guys aren't journalist, you just make podcasts. You have no ties to any company, nor obligated to do anything outside of what you believe in. Podcasts are just the same as blogs, which are just the same as you posting on a forum, although, it's not as open to discussion like a forum. Never-the-less, it's still just of your own opinion. You guys aren't journalists. I never said make Walshy or T2 tap out and say Uncle(admit Halo3 sucks), but you guys do coware towards them when they're around. You never ask them about the things you're most heated about. The whole point to this podcast was "real opinions", not "opinions only when pros aren't around, because we can't upset them, because we're journalists". Show your real opinions around them, damn it! Stop thinking you have journalistic integrity, cause you aren't associated with anybody with credibility. You just speak for yourselves, and that's it.
I guess a couple of my MLG friends that turned me on to this podcast were right about you. Funny.....
11:44 AM
Anonymous said...
Guy that always says "good episode faggots" hear. I have got to say something about the above comment. First of all, they didn't say they were journalists, they said that’s "not proper journalism" to act in that manner. Second of all, what is journalism? Do you realize the people that you call "paparazzi" the ones taking crotch shots of Britney Spears, that they are TECHNICALLY journalists? Journalism is a very wide branch of things, when you have people on and you interview them for information on a public medium like this, then when doing that they are technically journalists. By that same means, sharing stuff such as ventrillo talks and other conversations they have personally had with developers and so forth,such as developers saying that it costs over $10,000 to release a patch (something you will not find in a google search) still falls under journalism. Also re-listen to the podcasts and actually pay attention, people that actually matter (pros, who gives a shit really), but people that MATTER like devs/prs/sirlin/SUNDANCE. Have all had questions pushed to quite a degree, to the point of making them say "oh shit, that's a good fucking idea". Paraphrased of course.
If you're so butthurt about pros(who are just high school dropouts..srsly)not being forced to make some giant revelation, I don't know what to say to you , other than get your fucking priorities straight.
Sorry I went on a rant there, it's just me, studying journalism for quite some time now as a hobby and possibly looking to do this fulltime, it gets annoying with bullshit spewed like the above comment.
Also good episode faggots, but on the front page links im getting episode 29 in the 30 link and 30 in the 29 link.
4:24 PM
Anonymous said...
LOL, I'm not "butthurt" about anything. I just said they coware towards pros. If they want to act like they have "attitude" and "real opinions", but then when pros come on, they have to change up their standards, then by all means. If you want to say they're "technically" journalists, then go right ahead, but that still doesn't change the fact that they answer to nobody, and display no form of journalistic integrity. The only integrity they have to uphold, is making these pros that play the games that the supposedly don't support or endorse, come back on.
The only one "butthurt" here is you, LOL. I don't care, I was just leaving a comment on eps:28, and they went off on me, cause I made an opinion that they're pussies around the pros, and I still stand by my comment. They basically were talking about me directly about "proper journalism", so I responded with a comment. If you have pros, that play the games that you rant about for AGES, and not get down to what pisses you off, then you're just as much of a sellout as these developers are, making you just as much of a hypocrite. What's the point of having them on, other then to get people to listen to your show? Why should I believe a fuckin word they say, if they're going to use cheap tactics, just like developers do when making shitty games? I guess they have to dull up their show, to get the masses to listen? LOL
"Butthurt"LOL, I'm just making an observation. Sounds more like YOU need to get your priorities straight, bud.
11:18 AM
Anonymous said...
Hmm I was going to respond with a lot more than the following, but I realized you countered none of my points, were caught up in being called butthurt, and are still pretty fixated on pros for some reason, when we have had the CEO of a company IN CHARGE OF THESE PROS on hear twice with questions pressed hard as well as developers. But whatever floats your boat right, because it's obviously not that stuff! LOL!
12:11 PM
Anonymous said...
None of your points? What were they, besides your long rant about journalism and pros? I think I went over them completely, and commented on your "butthurt" remark. My point was never about developers, as I never brought that up, I just said "pros". And again, I still stand by my opinion that they coware around pros. I even said they do a good job in my original comment in ep:28. Now you're just beating around the bush, trying to come off like my original point wasn't about pros, when clearly it was.
I don't care what they do on their show, I just commented on what I think is lame, which was them not getting to the issues around pros, and the only reason why they have them on, is to get the masses follow, but at the expense of dumbing down their show.
On a side note: I guess I'm speaking to Esh, as Vapor openly responds. I didn't even know I was talking to one of you guys, until I got done with my response. So anytime I say "they", I actually mean "you".
12:34 PM
Anonymous said...
LOL waitwaitwaitwait. Let me get this straight. Do you guys comment on your own podcast, and act like you're a "fan"? You say, "good episode faggots", and then said I never "countered any of your points" and that "[you] have had the CEO of a company IN CHARGE OF THESE PROS on hear twice with questions pressed hard as well as developers". So either this is osme fan who thinks he is on the podcast, or its Esh or Vapor making "good episode" comments on their own podcasts.
I'm confused??......LOL
12:41 PM
Anonymous said...
Okay this is my first post after reading all this the "Pro" lover makes me laugh they ask very interesting questions to the pro's on what the pro's do thats all they want out of them. But when they have sundance on the show they pressed him with many questions that would make you happy so I'm not sure how to respond to an Idiot "Pro" worshipper but whatever. By the way I have never spoken to esh or vapor so don't say im one of them my Gamertag is: CarbonKILLL just so you know im not them
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"Proper journalism" LOL! You guys aren't journalist, you just make podcasts. You have no ties to any company, nor obligated to do anything outside of what you believe in. Podcasts are just the same as blogs, which are just the same as you posting on a forum, although, it's not as open to discussion like a forum. Never-the-less, it's still just of your own opinion. You guys aren't journalists. I never said make Walshy or T2 tap out and say Uncle(admit Halo3 sucks), but you guys do coware towards them when they're around. You never ask them about the things you're most heated about. The whole point to this podcast was "real opinions", not "opinions only when pros aren't around, because we can't upset them, because we're journalists". Show your real opinions around them, damn it! Stop thinking you have journalistic integrity, cause you aren't associated with anybody with credibility. You just speak for yourselves, and that's it.
I guess a couple of my MLG friends that turned me on to this podcast were right about you. Funny.....
Guy that always says "good episode faggots" hear. I have got to say something about the above comment. First of all, they didn't say they were journalists, they said that’s "not proper journalism" to act in that manner. Second of all, what is journalism? Do you realize the people that you call "paparazzi" the ones taking crotch shots of Britney Spears, that they are TECHNICALLY journalists? Journalism is a very wide branch of things, when you have people on and you interview them for information on a public medium like this, then when doing that they are technically journalists. By that same means, sharing stuff such as ventrillo talks and other conversations they have personally had with developers and so forth,such as developers saying that it costs over $10,000 to release a patch (something you will not find in a google search) still falls under journalism. Also re-listen to the podcasts and actually pay attention, people that actually matter (pros, who gives a shit really), but people that MATTER like devs/prs/sirlin/SUNDANCE. Have all had questions pushed to quite a degree, to the point of making them say "oh shit, that's a good fucking idea". Paraphrased of course.
If you're so butthurt about pros(who are just high school dropouts..srsly)not being forced to make some giant revelation, I don't know what to say to you , other than get your fucking priorities straight.
Sorry I went on a rant there, it's just me, studying journalism for quite some time now as a hobby and possibly looking to do this fulltime, it gets annoying with bullshit spewed like the above comment.
Also good episode faggots, but on the front page links im getting episode 29 in the 30 link and 30 in the 29 link.
LOL, I'm not "butthurt" about anything. I just said they coware towards pros. If they want to act like they have "attitude" and "real opinions", but then when pros come on, they have to change up their standards, then by all means. If you want to say they're "technically" journalists, then go right ahead, but that still doesn't change the fact that they answer to nobody, and display no form of journalistic integrity. The only integrity they have to uphold, is making these pros that play the games that the supposedly don't support or endorse, come back on.
The only one "butthurt" here is you, LOL. I don't care, I was just leaving a comment on eps:28, and they went off on me, cause I made an opinion that they're pussies around the pros, and I still stand by my comment. They basically were talking about me directly about "proper journalism", so I responded with a comment. If you have pros, that play the games that you rant about for AGES, and not get down to what pisses you off, then you're just as much of a sellout as these developers are, making you just as much of a hypocrite. What's the point of having them on, other then to get people to listen to your show? Why should I believe a fuckin word they say, if they're going to use cheap tactics, just like developers do when making shitty games? I guess they have to dull up their show, to get the masses to listen? LOL
"Butthurt"LOL, I'm just making an observation. Sounds more like YOU need to get your priorities straight, bud.
Hmm I was going to respond with a lot more than the following, but I realized you countered none of my points, were caught up in being called butthurt, and are still pretty fixated on pros for some reason, when we have had the CEO of a company IN CHARGE OF THESE PROS on hear twice with questions pressed hard as well as developers. But whatever floats your boat right, because it's obviously not that stuff! LOL!
None of your points? What were they, besides your long rant about journalism and pros? I think I went over them completely, and commented on your "butthurt" remark. My point was never about developers, as I never brought that up, I just said "pros". And again, I still stand by my opinion that they coware around pros. I even said they do a good job in my original comment in ep:28. Now you're just beating around the bush, trying to come off like my original point wasn't about pros, when clearly it was.
I don't care what they do on their show, I just commented on what I think is lame, which was them not getting to the issues around pros, and the only reason why they have them on, is to get the masses follow, but at the expense of dumbing down their show.
On a side note: I guess I'm speaking to Esh, as Vapor openly responds. I didn't even know I was talking to one of you guys, until I got done with my response. So anytime I say "they", I actually mean "you".
LOL waitwaitwaitwait. Let me get this straight. Do you guys comment on your own podcast, and act like you're a "fan"? You say, "good episode faggots", and then said I never "countered any of your points" and that "[you] have had the CEO of a company IN CHARGE OF THESE PROS on hear twice with questions pressed hard as well as developers". So either this is osme fan who thinks he is on the podcast, or its Esh or Vapor making "good episode" comments on their own podcasts.
I'm confused??......LOL
Okay this is my first post after reading all this the "Pro" lover makes me laugh they ask very interesting questions to the pro's on what the pro's do thats all they want out of them. But when they have sundance on the show they pressed him with many questions that would make you happy so I'm not sure how to respond to an Idiot "Pro" worshipper but whatever. By the way I have never spoken to esh or vapor so don't say im one of them my Gamertag is: CarbonKILLL just so you know im not them
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